Fedora 37 nspawn(chroot on steroids) on VF2

dnf install gcc clang

gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 12.2.1 20221121 (Red Hat 12.2.1-4)
Copyright (C) 2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO

[root@fedora-riscv ~]# clang --version
clang version 15.0.4 (Fedora 15.0.4-1.1.riscv64.fc37)
Target: riscv64-redhat-linux-gnu
Thread model: posix
InstalledDir: /usr/bin

Maybe you would like to see the under-the-hood riscv64 assembly:

# Create assembler code:
gcc --verbose -S -fverbose-asm -g -O2 swapBits.c -o swapBits.s

# Create asm interlaced with source lines:
as -alhnd swapBits.s > swapBits.lst

Some other stuff to see:

as --dump-config
alias = riscv64-linux-gnu
canonical = riscv64-unknown-linux-gnu
cpu-type = riscv64
bfd-target = elf32-littleriscv

Do check out gcc verbose output for Starfive VF2:

gcc --verbose -S -fverbose-asm -g -O2 swapBits.c -o swapBits.s

Does simply adding the cmdline argument ”root=/dev/nvme1n2” (or something like that) not work?

You’re talking about trying that in /boot/boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf
I haven’t tried exactly that, but I’ve tried something using the uuid and it didn’t work.

There’s hope though, via uboot setenv settings, but I need a usb-uart dongle to try it carefully.

The nspawn is a very good alternative since you see the fedora 37 actually going through the init process. It’s better than chroot for sure.

The same approach could be used to run the debian sid from /mnt as well.

All the above is in the hopes to create a fedora silverblue image for the VF2.

I did get answers from the original maintainers for Fedora images on how they do it, but not specific to riscv64.
It’s a great start. Now all we have to do is read and understand the workflow steps.

As I was in the nspawn wanting to get the right configuration before I attempt to do a
dracut --kver,
I navigated to its /boot directory, but it’s empty. Why is /boot empty within the nspawn? In fact there isn’t even a /mnt/boot/ directory on the nvme. So where is nspawn getting its reference for /boot/ if not the /etc/fstab and the cli invocation?

Within the nspawn /etc/fstab, there is an entry that points to the correct sdcard partition with the one an only /boot/ binaries.

SDCARD /etc/fstab

 # cat /etc/fstab
LABEL=BOOTPART /boot vfat defaults,rw,owner,flush,umask=000 0 0
LABEL=rootpart / btrfs defaults,ssd,compress-force=zstd,noatime,nodiratime 0 1
/swap/file.0 none swap sw 0 0

NVME /etc/fstab

 # cat /mnt/etc/fstab
UUID=d9334329-e2ad-4b72-8f5f-b61406e9d461  / ext4    defaults,noatime,x-systemd.device-timeout=300s,x-systemd.mount-timeout=300s 0 0

#this uuid didn't work from nspawn
###UUID="E68A-7FF7" /boot vfat defaults,rw,owner,flush,umask=000 0 0
/dev/mmcblk1p2 /boot vfat defaults,rw,owner,flush,umask=000 0 0


Rather than doing:
systemd-nspawn -D /mnt /sbin/init

Invoke the nspawn and tell it to bind the host’s /boot as /boot within the container.
systemd-nspawn --bind=/boot:/boot -D /mnt /sbin/init

systemd-nspawn --bind=/boot:/boot -D /mnt /sbin/init
spawned the container and we are able to see the sdcard’s /boot directory. Congrats.

Now let’s try creating an initramfs image that doesn’t hurt the existing files in place. We’ll call it foobar using the current vf2 kernel version.

dracut foobar15Feb2023.img 5.15.0-vf2-260+

Oops errors:

dracut: WARNING: running in hostonly mode in a container!!
dracut: Cannot find module directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-vf2-260+/
dracut: and --no-kernel was not specified

That’s because the koji repos have more recent kernels and kernel modules in them that are not intended for the VF2.

I’ve got to figure out what I’m going to do to overcome this.
With dnf, how can I pin/freeze/forbid specific packages to prevent them from being installed/updated and conflict with what VF2 wants? We definitely at very least need to compile the kernel and modules at a specific snapshot that starfive VF2 maintainers know is working.

For all the other non-kernel/non-kernel module packages, however we want them to proceed(not-pinned/not-frozen/not-forbidden) to install and behave as usual.

I can appreciate the debian snapshot archive repo frozen to specific day of packages. You can update/upgrade until you’re blue in the face, it will always be updating/upgrading to the same package version LOL. At this particular point in time, it makes sense when you’re debugging an immature product which VF2 is in fact.

Is there such an equivalent fedora snapshot archive repo?

Is there a VF2 fedora repo yet?

I saw a VF1 fedora repo, but it has not been active for a while.

I installed the root fs from the image linked to above to my nvme and left my boot partition as-is from my Debian install then created a new boot entry pointing to the nvme partition.

I had to update the fstab but except for that it booted up just fine. Amusingly, the wheel group was spelled with a capitol W so my user couldn’t sudo. Took a while to figure that out.

The only other thing I had to do was disable all yum repos except the riscv and change the version from fc37 to fc38 in the repo url since the fc37 repo dir is empty. Dnf updated a bunch of packages and everything still worked fine after reboot.

The upside to this approach is being able to dual boot Debian and Fedora.

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Mr. Lowrey, please provide more details. I would love to duplicate your success. I was unable to boot off of the nvme partition.

When you said you updated the /etc/fstab, did you update the nmve’s /etc/fstab or the sdcard’s /etc/fstab?
Better yet, what did you put in both ? LOL

You mentioned wheel group was with a capital W in that image. I just checked and it’s definitely lowercase.

[root@fedora-riscv ~]# cat /etc/passwd |grep wheel
[root@fedora-riscv ~]# cat /etc/group |grep wheel
[root@fedora-riscv yum.repos.d]# cat fedora-riscv-koji.repo 
name=Fedora RISC-V Koji

[root@fedora-riscv ~]# dnf update
Fedora RISC-V Koji                                                                                                                                                                                            5.4 MB/s |  72 MB     00:13    
Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:13 ago on Thu 16 Feb 2023 02:25:21 PM EST.
Dependencies resolved.

 Problem 1: cannot install the best update candidate for package netcat-1.217-3.fc33.riscv64
  - nothing provides libtls.so.25()(64bit) needed by netcat-1.219-1.fc37.riscv64
 Problem 2: package netcat-1.217-3.fc33.riscv64 requires libtls.so.20()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
  - cannot install both libretls-3.7.0-1.fc37.riscv64 and libretls-3.3.2-1.fc33.riscv64
  - problem with installed package netcat-1.217-3.fc33.riscv64
  - cannot install the best update candidate for package libretls-3.3.2-1.fc33.riscv64
  - nothing provides libtls.so.25()(64bit) needed by netcat-1.219-1.fc37.riscv64
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 tzdata                                                           noarch                                     2022g-1.fc38                                                          fedora-riscv-koji                                    432 k
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 zlib-devel                                                       riscv64                                    1.2.13-2.fc38                                                         fedora-riscv-koji                                     45 k
 zlib-static                                                      riscv64                                    1.2.13-2.fc38                                                         fedora-riscv-koji                                    121 k
 zstd                                                             riscv64                                    1.5.2-3.fc38                                                          fedora-riscv-koji                                    478 k
Installing dependencies:
 fedora-repos-rawhide                                             noarch                                     38-0.3                                                                fedora-riscv-koji                                    9.7 k
 fedora-repos-rawhide-modular                                     noarch                                     38-0.3                                                                fedora-riscv-koji                                    9.8 k
 pyproject-srpm-macros                                            noarch                                     1.6.2-1.fc38                                                          fedora-riscv-koji                                     14 k
Skipping packages with conflicts:
(add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade):
 libretls                                                         riscv64                                    3.7.0-1.fc37                                                          fedora-riscv-koji                                     37 k
Skipping packages with broken dependencies:
 netcat                                                           riscv64                                    1.219-1.fc37                                                          fedora-riscv-koji                                     34 k

Transaction Summary
Install   3 Packages
Upgrade  82 Packages
Skip      2 Packages

Total download size: 209 M
Is this ok [y/N]:

Thank you for you tips. Cheers.

These dnf group commands don’t show much.

dnf group list
dnf group install "C Development Tools and Libraries"
dnf group install "Development Tools"
dnf group install "Container Management"

The output from all this:

Module or Group 'C Development Tools and Libraries' is not available.
Module or Group 'Development Tools' is not available.
Module or Group 'Container Management' is not available.
Error: Nothing to do.

Still early days.

I started out with the Debian-69 image booting from the sdcard but with the root partition on the nvme.

All I did was create another partition on the nvme so I had nvme0n1p1 with the debian root and nvme0n1p2 for the fedora root.

I attached the fedora image to loop0 via

# losetup /dev/loop0 Fedora-Developer-37-20221130.n.0-nvme.raw.img
# partprobe /dev/loop0
# lsblk --fs /dev/loop0
├─loop0p1 ext4   1.0   _/boot 53e7246e-90c3-42c4-b447-3ebc9fe1fdfc
└─loop0p2 ext4   1.0   _/     d9334329-e2ad-4b72-8f5f-b61406e9d461

The fedora root is loop0p2 and so I did this:

dd if=/dev/loop0p2 of=/dev/nvme0n1p2 bs=1M

To boot I just modified extlinux.conf from the debian boot partition to add a new entry for Fedora:

label l2
        menu label Fedora (NVMe)
        linux /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-starfive
        initrd /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-starfive
        fdtdir /boot/dtbs/
        append  root=/dev/nvme0n1p2 rw console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200 earlycon rootwait stmmaceth=chain_mode:1 selinux=0

The only difference between this and the debian boot entry is the root=/dev/nvme0n1p2.

Before booting, I mounted the fedora root to /mnt and edited /mnt/etc/fstab to look like this:

/dev/nvme0n1p2  /     ext4    defaults,noatime,x-systemd.device-timeout=300s,x-systemd.mount-timeout=300s 0 0
/dev/mmcblk1p2  /boot vfat    defaults,noatime,x-systemd.device-timeout=300s,x-systemd.mount-timeout=300s 0 0

I could have used UUIDs or LABELs but these block devices are stable and easier for me to work with.

At this point the board will boot fine if you choose the new boot entry from the boot menu (or change the default in extlinux.conf) but I suggest you add a user and add them to the wheel group. When this Fedora instance boots the console output will show you what the root and riscv user passwords are but it might be easier to change them while you’re here.

Assuming I’ve remembered all the steps correctly, and you’ve booted Fedora, the next step is to conf the yum repos.

Disable all repos in /etc/yum.repos.d except for fedora-riscv.repo. You need to edit the repo url in that one to be:


The change is from f37 to f38 in the path. For some reason f37 is empty.

Now you should be able to dnf as expected. Here’s what I get when I run a few dnf group commands:

# dnf group list
Last metadata expiration check: 3:40:13 ago on Sat 18 Feb 2023 07:14:13 AM EST.
Available Environment Groups:
   Fedora Custom Operating System
   Minimal Install
   Fedora Server Edition
   Fedora Workstation
   Fedora Cloud Server
   KDE Plasma Workspaces
   Xfce Desktop
   LXDE Desktop
   LXQt Desktop
   Cinnamon Desktop
   MATE Desktop
   Sugar Desktop Environment
   Deepin Desktop
   Budgie Desktop
   Development and Creative Workstation
   Web Server
   Infrastructure Server
   Basic Desktop
   i3 desktop
   Sway Desktop
Installed Groups:
   C Development Tools and Libraries
   Development Tools
   RPM Development Tools
Available Groups:
   3D Printing
   Administration Tools
   Audio Production
   Authoring and Publishing
   Budgie Desktop Applications
   Cloud Infrastructure
   Cloud Management Tools
   Container Management
   D Development Tools and Libraries
   Design Suite
   Domain Membership
   Educational Software
   Electronic Lab
   Engineering and Scientific
   FreeIPA Server
   Games and Entertainment
   Headless Management
   MATE Applications
   Network Servers
   Neuron Modelling Simulators
   Python Classroom
   Python Science
   Security Lab
   Sound and Video
   Sway Window Manager (supplemental packages)
   System Tools
   Text-based Internet
   Window Managers
# dnf group install "System Tools"
Last metadata expiration check: 3:41:26 ago on Sat 18 Feb 2023 07:14:13 AM EST.
Dependencies resolved.
 Package                                Architecture       Version                                  Repository               Size
Installing group/module packages:
 BackupPC                               riscv64            4.4.0-8.fc37                             fedora-riscv            431 k
 NetworkManager-l2tp                    riscv64            1.20.6-1.fc37                            fedora-riscv            183 k
 NetworkManager-libreswan               riscv64            1.2.16-2.fc37                            fedora-riscv            124 k
 NetworkManager-openconnect             riscv64            1.2.8-3.fc37                             fedora-riscv            544 k
 NetworkManager-openvpn                 riscv64            1:1.8.18-2.fc37                          fedora-riscv            271 k
 NetworkManager-vpnc                    riscv64            1:1.2.8-2.fc37                           fedora-riscv            168 k
 bonnie++                               riscv64            2.00a-6.fc37                             fedora-riscv             83 k
 cifs-utils                             riscv64            6.15-2.fc37                              fedora-riscv             94 k
 libreswan                              riscv64            4.9-1.fc37                               fedora-riscv            1.3 M
 nmap                                   riscv64            3:7.93-1.fc37                            fedora-riscv            5.5 M
 openconnect                            riscv64            9.01-3.fc37                              fedora-riscv            870 k
 openldap-clients                       riscv64            2.6.3-1.2.riscv64.fc37                   fedora-riscv            174 k
 openvpn                                riscv64            2.5.8-1.fc37                             fedora-riscv            652 k
 samba-client                           riscv64            2:4.17.2-2.fc37                          fedora-riscv            675 k
 setserial                              riscv64            2.17-55.fc37                             fedora-riscv             26 k
 tigervnc                               riscv64            1.12.0-7.fc37                            fedora-riscv            313 k
 vpnc                                   riscv64            0.5.3-44.svn550.fc37                     fedora-riscv             90 k
 xdelta                                 riscv64            3.1.0-15.fc37                            fedora-riscv             89 k
 zisofs-tools                           riscv64            1.0.8-28.fc37                            fedora-riscv             28 k
Installing dependencies:
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 esmtp                                  riscv64            1.2-20.fc37                              fedora-riscv             50 k
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 libdbi                                 riscv64            0.9.0-20.fc37                            fedora-riscv             48 k
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 libpskc                                riscv64            2.6.7-4.fc37                             fedora-riscv             34 k
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 nmap-ncat                              riscv64            3:7.93-1.fc37                            fedora-riscv            221 k
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 perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect             noarch             0.3-37.fc37                              fedora-riscv             14 k
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 perl-Time-ParseDate                    noarch             2015.103-22.fc37                         fedora-riscv             39 k
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 ppp                                    riscv64            2.4.7-21.0.riscv64.fc29                  fedora-riscv            952 k
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 xmlsec1                                riscv64            1.2.34-2.fc37                            fedora-riscv            184 k
Installing weak dependencies:
 cifs-utils-info                        riscv64            6.15-2.fc37                              fedora-riscv             20 k
 julietaula-montserrat-fonts            noarch             1:7.222-3.fc37                           fedora-riscv            1.6 M
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 mod_lua                                riscv64            2.4.54-5.fc37                            fedora-riscv             57 k
Installing Groups:
 System Tools

Transaction Summary
Install  51 Packages

Total download size: 18 M
Installed size: 64 M
Is this ok [y/N]:

Hope that helps!


This is a great guide, thanks. I only wish we could have a more recent kernel than 5.15.0, but we are waiting on StarFive I guess :frowning:

I can applied incremental patch to 5.15.2, but no further than that because it will conflicts with what Starfive already applied into the source.

I succeeded into booting directly onto the nvme with your instructions.
I have the very same /boot/boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf as yours.
I modified the /mnt/etc/fstab to hold the same information as yours.

It booted up and ran perfectly. I got the network.
I was able to log in without issues.

ISSUE: I modified the baseurl to be identical to yours. Yes the dnf group list displayed the same output as yours.
When I came to install “C Development Tools and Libraries” I feel as though it installed same subset of the usual tools. ditto for “Development Tools”(installed nothing empty package list) and for “Container Management”(installed nothing empty package list).

Your dnf group install "System Tools" does list packages(non empty package list) to install, but that’s not the group I want.

Run dnf group info "C Development Tools and Libraries" and you’ll see the full list of packages that are part of the group. Spot checking shows that all the non-optional packages are already installed so there’s nothing for dnf to do.

You can also add --with-optional to install the optional packages too…

dnf group install --with-optional "C Development Tools and Libraries"

Not all rpms are available for riscv. For example, there is no containerd or podman. There is active development going on so hopefully some of the missing packages will be available soon.

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Here is the VF2 Fedora 38 dmesg from nvme after booting directly to it:

Yes, I’m seeing more packages when I pass that –with-optional arg. Ok understood active development wip for the missing packages. Thank you llowrey. You’ve been very helpful.

Also davidlt informed me where the package list is for Fedora 38.


Whatever packages that are missing are still wip under development.

I’m still very much impressed with all I can do with the fedora 38 image at present.
I’m astounded I can boot off the nvme on the VF2 now! Thanks to llowrey for that.

I’m feeling closer to a VF2 fedora silverblue as well. The steps to get there are getting found and I’m trying to understand them, my poor little brain. Please note these steps are for the x86_64 image.

I think the key lines I need to understand more about are these ones:

I think I found all the details for a particular round of tests for ostree_build:

I’m finding these logs to be helpful:

All I have to figure out is what all these steps mean LOL

I have no Fedora Silverlue image built. It’s a time-consuming challenge for me.
I did however try a newer Fedora(non-silverblue) 38 image via nspawn recipe above identically and it does behave well enough to give me a shell login and to update/upgrade within the shell successfully to the attached nvme. I use the archlinux vf2 minimal on the sdcard because to boot because it has a correct /boot and /boot/efi there using a well-behaving (on the vf2) kernel as the base :slight_smile: I installed rust and its cli system monitor called “bottom”(cargo install bottom) I also tried the latest async rust web server https://rocket.rs and it behaved correctly as well

Someone in the Fedora forums raised that a CoreOS image may be more useful than Silverblue for most people:

It may be possibly useful to use headless linux distros for stuff like NAS, but that wasn’t the spirit of my intention. I like Debian, but after having felt the experience of undergoing Fedora Silverblue on a few different machines alongside some Debian/ubuntu/Popos boxes over the past 6 years, I’m feeling the advantages of versioned filesystems and immutable parts of the os within fedora silverblue. I started somewhere around fc35 and enjoyed the transition of migrating from fc35 to fc36 painless and actually very short duration. It’s called a rebase. fc36 to fc37, then fc37 to fc38, fc38 to fc39 were all painless and of short duration.
The very same kinds of migrations using debian/ubuntu/popos dist-releases were a hell of a lot longer!!! at times with gpu drivers busting.

I like to have a desktop. The engineering release with a snapshot of debian is insufficient since it’s frozen in time. I do look forward to seeing the distro behave as usual on x86_64 with the ability to upgrade some packages if not all. I don’t mind if the kernel and some drivers are frozen.

I wish there would be a troubleshooting tool for existing installs of debian/archlinux, where it checks to see what mistakes users have done with the install and corrects them:
-boot/spi is wrong version. the tool would download/upgrade the respective partitions on the board and in storage
-the .dtb’s are wrong sha256sum values. the tool would download/upgrade the respective .dtb’s in the necessary locations in storage
-the gpu drivers are not installed. the tool would download/install the respective gpu drivers to their correct locations where the os will find and use them.
-the gpu drivers are not configured within gnome/lxde/lxqt/wayland. The tool would correctly configure gnome/lxde/lxqt/wayland for the appropriate gpu drivers and available monitor resolutions
-the desktop software is installed, but it’s not working. the tool would provide the opportunity to re-install all the required desktop software again and configure it correctly.

A desktop repair tool for the VF2 distros essentially. Debian and Archlinux could be the first two to have this kind of repair-desktop tool.

Thank you for listening.